January 9, 2009 - 1:15 am
Please try to keep from using vulgarities and profanity. I feel we can make our points without using profanity. I have no problem with calling the pilot a jerk, however remember there can be children viewing this thread so try to keep suitable for public. July-7-2007
As far as I know is the first time this much of the video has been made readily available to the GP when I posted this on Youtube. ;)
More footage then I have seen on the net on this subject. Mishap 24 June 1994, a B-52H of the 325th Bomb Squadron, 92d Bomb Wing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Fairchild_Air_Force_Base_B-52_crash
In this photograph you can see what is apparently an ejection hatch.
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/210/b52crsh2cf5.jpg
This photograph was shot in mid-impact with the ground.
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/945/b52crash3rj9.jpg
The photographs were shot in-between the time frame that there was apparently a plasma ball from the wing clipping power lines.
US air show standards are the highest, but this was a case of systemic disregard for safety. Since this crash, the bar has been set higher more enforcement and awareness.
It bothers me to see some other counties still have very poor safety at major air shows. The former soviet block has had several crashes that I would consider safety neglect a factor, if not the cause.
Aerobatics should not be done over crowds. Aerobatics should be kept in a safe margin away from the crowd and to some extent the flight line. I even frown on extremely low passes over crowds.
Pilots and management/command should have restraint from flying planes to extreme limits at air shows. A margin / buffer zone should be between the aerobatic area and the crowd.
The B-52 was just practicing; if he had crashed in a crowd at an air show the loss of life would be high. The B-52 did some low high speed passes over personnel area and flight line; if there was a failure, he could have possibly destroyed all the aircraft on the flight line (and equipment, buildings) or and killed a lot more personnel.
I love aircraft and air shows and the US. I hate to see a bunch more rules, I would prefer pilots and people in charge do there best to keep things safe with knowledge, reasonable action.
I think the US and many other countries have learned from this accident to take air show safety more rationally. However, a few air shows like to try to out perform other air shows with unsafe flashy showboat shows.
When you push the limits you tend to exponentially increase the risks. If a pilot makes a goof or if there is a failure, with buffer zones the risk to the crowd can be minimized.
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On 24 June 1994, a B-52H of the 325th Bomb Squadron, 92d Bomb Wing at Fairchild Air Force Base (AFB), Wash., crashed while preparing to land after practicing maneuvers for an air show, killing all four crewmen. The pilot in command had over a long period of time demonstrated a disregard for Air Force flying rules and regulations, and this was known by the senior commanders in the wing. No appropriate action had been taken to discipline him or rein in his noncompliant behavior.
More info at
http://s92270093.onlinehome.us/CRM-Devel/resources/paper/darkblue/darkblue.htm
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=14464006
In my opinion, I would consider this pilot a superb "stick and rudder" pilot. However there is more to being a pilot and flight then "stick and rudder", in my opinion he was very poor in some aspects of safety.
It's like a football player that is in excellent physical condition and physical ability, but ignores strategy and team effort. There is more to being a pilot than one aspect, just as there is more to being an athlete then a single aspect.
Other good videos long videos of the same plane and pilot. Courtesy of jescates
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UJb08ZzejAA
http://youtube.com/watch?v=hWUgDLFokNw
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January 9th, 2009 at 01:54:27 just behind the tower was an area of restricted airspace, reportedly because of a nuclear weapons storage facility.[5] To avoid flying through the restricted airspace, Holland apparently flew the aircraft in an extremely tight, steeply banked turn while maintaining the low, 250 foot (75 m) AGL altitude. Approximately three quarters of the way around the turn, at 14:16, the aircraft banked past 90°, descended rapidly, and hit the ground, exploding and killing the four crew members.
January 9th, 2009 at 02:17:26 The B-52 crash at Fairchild Air Force Base was a fatal air crash that occurred on June 24, 1994, killing the four crew members of a United States Air Force (USAF) B-52 Stratofortress named Czar 52[1] during an airshow practice flight. In the crash, Bud Holland, who was the command pilot of the aircraft based at Fairchild Air Force Base, flew the aircraft beyond its operational limits and lost control. As a result, the aircraft stalled, hit the ground, and was destroyed. (wikipedia)
January 9th, 2009 at 02:40:25 In flight we have basically thurst, lift, weight (leave drag aside). When you make a 90 bank turn wing can only produce lift horizontally. Some planes can use rudder to point nose a little up and the thurst hold the plane level. Unfortunatly this big bird can't. The turn was ok at the beginning when the guy says "fantastic". Then a wind shear created a moment on those big wings or the pilot forced the turn just to pass lined up with rwy. What a waste of lives and equipement.
January 9th, 2009 at 03:03:24 The pilots pushed the plane to hard... there does not appear to be any malfunction/ mechanical failure with the airplane. just that the pilot banked the plane at a 90 degree angle at too low of a speed. in order for an aircraft to remain airborne it must have enough air flowing under the wings (aka: lift). when the pilot banked his aircraft at a 90 degree angle, he lost all of the lift under his wings. this is why you see a sudden drop. cause of crash: over confident pilots.
January 9th, 2009 at 03:26:23 I would hope that after this incident, that the USAF does a better job of weeding out bad pilots.
January 9th, 2009 at 03:49:22 i love this it tight
January 9th, 2009 at 04:12:21 omg my retarded cousin thinks the pilot is still alive(please reply to this if you want to say something to my cousin)
January 9th, 2009 at 04:35:20 i never knew such a large plane could maneuver like this.. AMAZING POWER
January 9th, 2009 at 04:58:19 My educated guess as to the cause (with background): When you bank an aircraft more than 30 degrees, the stall speed (the speed at which the wings stop producing lift) increases. At 30 degrees, your stall speed might be 150 knots, at 60 degrees, 200 knots, at 75 degrees 250 knots and so on (these numbers aren't for any particular aircraft). At 90 degrees of bank, it's practically impossible to prevent a stall. Quite simply, the wings stopped producing lift and the plane fell out of the sky.
January 9th, 2009 at 05:21:18 that poor b-52. Imo, setting aside aircraft malfunction, only reason why unfortunate mishaps occur is pilot ego. I understand what these guys do is beyond most civilians comprehension, thus these guys are elite. And to have such knowledge to fly these incredible machines that way, makes me believe its just pure arrogance that would cause them to do stupid things endangering themselves, spectators and the aircraft.
January 9th, 2009 at 05:44:17 wat happened HOW?
January 9th, 2009 at 06:07:16 i agree with you mate ,im no pilot or expert and that large a mass of metal shouldnt be doing such acrobatic turns so close to populated areas and if he would have given himself room for error he may have saved his and his crews lives. i ride motorcycles and we all have a safety net off 3 o 4 seconds and thats on land at 60 kmph
January 9th, 2009 at 06:30:15 was all this an accident or was he flying so low and fast on purpose
January 9th, 2009 at 06:53:14 nothing like the brute force of a B-52
January 9th, 2009 at 07:16:13 That's really unfortunate to see happen. But that pilot did not seem like the brightest in the bunch, considering he was trying those cool moves over the airfield where people are.
January 9th, 2009 at 07:39:12 Such a massive machine to make a foolish move with. I heard the pilot was loose in the head anyways
January 9th, 2009 at 08:02:11 The closer a plane gets to 90 degrees the less vertical lift it produces. If you roll past 90 degrees, there is negative vertical lift produced by the wings and combined with gravity your plane fall like a brick. The pilot has banked past 90 degrees and the plane fell out of the sky. No failure of the airframe or engines, just a basic aerodynamic principal that every pilot knows and should respect. Especially at low altitude in plane the size of a B-52.
January 9th, 2009 at 08:25:10 Makes you wonder why passenger planes cannot have ejection the the whole roof blow off and one big parachute for the seats.
January 9th, 2009 at 08:48:09 don't buzz the tower!
January 9th, 2009 at 09:11:08 Push the envelope all you want, just remember that the postage gets canceled at the upper right hand corner.
January 9th, 2009 at 09:34:07 Its a combat plane, where ever possible the USAF tried to put egress systems into their combat equipment and the B-52 was no exception.
January 9th, 2009 at 09:57:06 omg!
January 9th, 2009 at 10:20:05 Good footage of a grand bird. Hate to see one come to an end that way. God Bless the poor souls on board.
January 9th, 2009 at 10:43:04 l2fly tbh
January 9th, 2009 at 11:06:03 mgdudz: You may be right, its quite possible I stand corrected. Perhaps that was another model or just a proposal. I thought the pyrotechnic starters were phased out because they telegraphed our moves. I may have taken the word of a poser or perhaps I mixed up. Perhaps a pyrotechnic chargers are sometimes called APU and I assumed it was a regular APU. I really dont know how I got the APU idea in my head.